Meeting Venue: Hybrid -
Committee
room 3, Senedd
and video conference
via Zoom
Meeting date: Wednesday, 18 September
2024
Meeting time: 09.30 - 12.04
This meeting can
be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/14895
Attendance
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Category
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Names
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Members of the Senedd:
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Peredur Owen Griffiths MS (Chair)
Peter Fox MS
Mike Hedges MS
Rhianon Passmore MS
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Witnesses:
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Mark Drakeford MS, Cabinet Secretary for
Finance and Welsh Language, Welsh Government
Andrew Jeffreys, Director Treasury, Welsh
Government
Sharon Bounds, Deputy Director Financial
Controls, Welsh Government
Ed Williams, Director of Senedd Resources,
Senedd Commission
Andrew Gibson, Director, Avison Young
Kate Innes, Chief Finance Officer, Senedd
Commission
Jan Koziel, Head of Procurement, Senedd
Commission
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Committee Staff:
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Owain Roberts (Clerk)
Cerian Jones (Second Clerk)
Martin Jennings (Researcher)
Božo Lugonja (Researcher)
Joanne McCarthy (Researcher)
Michael Lewis
(Deputy Clerk)
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<AI1>
Registration
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<AI2>
Private pre-meeting
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<AI3>
1
Introductions, apologies, substitutions
and declarations of interest
1. 1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting
of the Finance Committee.
</AI3>
<AI4>
2
Paper(s) to note
2.1 The Committee noted the papers.
</AI4>
<AI5>
2.1
PTN 1 - Letter from Chief Pharmaceutical
Officer to the Auditor General for Wales: Community Pharmacy Data
Matching Pilot - 19 July 2024
</AI5>
<AI6>
2.2
PTN 2 - Letter from the Cabinet Secretary
for Finance, Constitution and Cabinet Office: Statement of
Principles for Directly Funded Bodies - 19 July 2024
</AI6>
<AI7>
2.3
PTN 3 - Letter from Hefin David MS,
Senedd Commissioner: First Supplementary Budget 2024-25 - 19 July
2024
</AI7>
<AI8>
2.4
PTN 4 - Letter from the Cabinet Secretary
for Finance, Constitution and Cabinet Office: Landfill Disposals
Tax Avoidance - 23 July 2024
</AI8>
<AI9>
2.5
PTN 5 - Letter from the Temporary Chair
of the Health and Social Care Committee to the Minister for Social
Care: Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill - 26 July
2024
</AI9>
<AI10>
2.6
PTN 6 - Letter from the Minister for
Social Care: Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill - Additional
information - 26 July 2024
</AI10>
<AI11>
2.7
PTN 7 - Letter from the Minister for
Social Care: Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill - Integrated
Impact Assessment summaries - 30 August 2024
</AI11>
<AI12>
2.8
PTN 8 - Joint letter from the Cabinet
Secretary for Health and Social Care and the Minister for Social
Care to the Temporary Chair of the Health and Social Care
Committee: Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill - Additional
information - 6 September 2024
</AI12>
<AI13>
2.9
PTN 9 - Fiscal Intergovernmental
Relations: Written evidence from the Council of Fiscal and
Financial Policy of the Autonomous Communities, Spain - 16 July
2024 (This evidence was submitted to the Finance Committee in
Spanish only and translated into English with the consent of the
Council of Fiscal and Financial Policy of the Autonomous
Communities)
</AI13>
<AI14>
2.10 PTN 10 -
Letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Constitution and
Cabinet Office: Fiscal Intergovernmental Relations - 2 August
2024
</AI14>
<AI15>
2.11 PTN 11 -
Letter from Audit Wales: Update on Audit Wales' response to the
Committee's report on Annual Scrutiny of the Wales Audit Office and
the Auditor General for Wales - 12 August 2024
</AI15>
<AI16>
2.12 PTN 12 -
Letter from the University and College Union: Scrutiny of the Welsh
Government Draft Budget 2025-26 - 29 August 2024
</AI16>
<AI17>
2.13 PTN 13 -
Letter from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for
Climate Change and Rural Affairs to Chair of the Legislation,
Justice and Constitution Committee: Service Level Agreement between
Welsh Ministers, Rural Payments Agency and the British Cattle
Movement Service - 2 September 2024
</AI17>
<AI18>
3
Financial Transactions Capital: Evidence
session 3
3.1 The Committee took evidence on its inquiry
into Financial Transactions Capital from Mark Drakeford MS, Cabinet
Secretary for Finance and the Welsh Language, Welsh Government;
Andrew Jeffreys, Director Treasury, Welsh Government; and Sharon
Bounds, Deputy Director Financial Controls, Welsh Government.
3.2 The Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the
Welsh Language agreed to provide the following:
·
A list of projects that are currently utilising financial
transactions capital; and
·
Information on failed projects that have utilised financial
transactions capital.
</AI18>
<AI19>
4
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to
resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting
and the start of the meeting on 25 September
4.1 The motion was agreed.
</AI19>
<AI20>
5
Financial Transactions Capital:
Consideration of evidence
5.1 The Committee considered the evidence
received.
</AI20>
<AI21>
6
Cardiff Bay 2032 - Senedd Commission
Technical Briefing
6.1 The Committee received a technical
briefing on Cardiff Bay 2032 from the Senedd Commission.
</AI21>
<AI22>
7
Financial implications of the Health and
Social Care (Wales) Bill: Consideration of Draft Report
7.1 The Committee considered the draft report
and agreed it with minor changes.
</AI22>
<AI23>
8
Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26:
Update on the approach to budget scrutiny
8.1 The Committee considered the
correspondence and agreed the approach to budget scrutiny.
</AI23>
<AI24>
9
Interparliamentary Finance Committee
Forum: Update
9.1 The Committee considered the paper on the
Interparliamentary Finance Committee Forum and agreed that the
Forum writes to the Chief Secretary to
the Treasury.
</AI24>
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